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Post by Heather Glass - VerMillion on May 12, 2012 20:02:21 GMT -5
"If some law enforcement is right, then why isn't there a good cop tied up in that chair?" VerMillion asks without missing a beat. He may have the problem of recovering from being suffocated to the point of unconsciousness recently, but she doesn't. Actually, all things considered, physically she feels better now than she has in weeks. Comes from being somewhat caught up on sleep when she wasn't before.
And something else he says catches her attention as well. "What things 'just shouldn't be done' then?" she asks. As far as she's concerned, answering her question that way is just another way of dodging it. Then again, since this is an interview rather than a polite chat she feels that it's only right for her to be picky about the answers that she gets.
Which is why his complaint about being dazed gets an unsympathetic, "Sucks to be you." His last question only gets a shrug, as she's guessing that the fact that what he said only prompted more questions should be an ample sign about how satisfactory the answers were. Then again, even a perfectly satisfactory answer may not seem like one to her given that she's still staring right at him.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2012 21:32:01 GMT -5
Wulfen had to think about her question. "Well I thought about it and I didn't think I would do well as a cop........" He said. "And well I guess I though since there was a Batman a wolfman wouldn't be too big a deal."
Then he stopped at looked at her. "Well using so much rope to tie someone to a chair for an interview is one thing." He said in a dry tone. "And well there are some things like killing others without reason and the like that shouldn't be done." He had thought about this question before. But he had never had to explain it.
Then he chuckled. "Yeah well right now it does." He said. Then he swallowed and shifted around in his seat some more when he realized that she was staring straight at him. It was just something about her eyes........ They were beautiful and inviting......... Yet scary and missing something at the same time.
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Post by Heather Glass - VerMillion on May 13, 2012 0:14:28 GMT -5
"You thought that you wouldn't do well as a cop, but you thought that you'd do well as a vigilante?" VerMillion asks this time, looking somewhat disbelieving about that, "I'd think that being a vigilante would be harder, but then again I don't think you've disproved that." His continued optimism seems... odd to her. It just doesn't make any logical sense to her, really, and the brave toxin tends to make her think more along those lines since she has one fewer base emotion cluttering up her thoughts.
And his comment on the ropes causes an annoyed frown, "I told you that the ropes aren't my idea." So why is he complaining to her about them? But the next thing he says catches her attention very easily. "'Killing others without reason?" she repeats, before telling him to, "Name one time someone has killed someone for 'no reason'." Perhaps the fact that nobody ever asks that sort of question is the very reason why she felt the need to ask it.
Her gaze has hardly left him this entire interview, except when a gesture such as a headshake just so happens to break that contact momentarily. She doesn't really realize that she's staring - she's merely 'looking at' him, at least in her own mind. And that only because they're talking and so much of that is nonverbal even though this conversation is intended for the radio.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2012 0:29:37 GMT -5
"Well to be fair I was in a strange state of mind at the time." He said in response to her question about him being a vigilante instead of a cop.
'Why are you beating around the bush?' Lupin asked.
'Well I don't want to seem crazy.' Wulfen said.
'She's not talking to you she's talking to Wulfen. They won't think your crazy they'll think Wulfen's crazy.'
Then out loud he said. "Well I'm not blaming you I'm just saying it out loud." Then he started to answer her question about who has killed without reason. "Well....... Ok I guess everyone has a reason in their mind....... But its not always right." Then he paused and thought some................ "And at the risk of sounding like a Politician. Hitler killed countless people without a reason that was a true good reason...... Granted he didn't kill them directly. But in essence."
He hoped that was a good enough answer it was the best he could come up with under her strange stare. And the fact that he had never truly thought about that question until now.
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Post by Heather Glass - VerMillion on May 13, 2012 1:09:06 GMT -5
Not one to let such a vague statement just sit there, VerMillion asks, "What do you mean by 'strange state of mind'?" By this point it's blatantly obvious to her and probably anyone who hears this interview that he's avoiding telling her something about why he does what he does, though unlike anyone else who listens it isn't obvious to her why that would be. Since she, in her current state, wouldn't be afraid of the sorts of things that would prompt one to keep the origins of their identity a secret, she can't see why he would either.
But she also likes this train of thought that they're on when it comes to the idea of murder. It's always the classic example that people use, since it's such a supposedly 'obvious' bad, evil thing to do. Even before she met Crane, back in the days of her required college course on ethics she realized that the question was hardly as simple as the instructors seem to pretend that it was. And if the idea of murder can get so complicated, how can any lesser crime be so simple? "Then what's the difference between a 'right' reason to kill someone and a 'wrong' reason to kill someone?" she asks now, a smile coming to her face. Unless he's smarter than anyone she's ever had this discussion with, she knows exactly how it will go.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2012 1:20:37 GMT -5
Wulfen shifted about in his seat thinking of a way to answer. "Well I had just suffered a major loss and learned something I didn't want to know at almost the same time." He looked at her. "And its still kinda hard for me to talk about."
He looked just past her as he remembered that fateful night. There was a hint of sadness and shame in his eyes. But it only lasted for a few seconds before he was answering her next question.
"Well if your killing in self defense that's just on this side of ok. But if its for reasons like........ oh lets say........ 'You parked in my spot' or something a trivial as that. then that's a wrong reason." He said. "I know I probably sound like everyone else who's talked about this but thing is........ I've never talked about it." He said looking at her and feeling a strange feeling under her stare.
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Post by Heather Glass - VerMillion on May 13, 2012 2:42:54 GMT -5
Some people would be deterred from prying into something when the person they're talking to indicates that the subject is hard for them, but not VerMillion. In fact, it makes her that much quicker to ask, "What did you learn?" That's the real beauty of an interviewer on brave toxin with the ability to broadcast whatever they want - nothing is sacred.
But she's actually a bit more interested in his answer to her question. It's another way of dodging the question, really, providing examples, but in this case it's not annoying because she expected that - everyone does it. "What's so different about killing someone in self defense and killing the guy who took your spot? One could argue that it was self-defense to kill the person who took your spot - you're defending what's yours," she replies. Of course she knows that most people would agree that it's not a right reason to kill someone, but she knows that the more someone tries to explain what seems to be such an obvious answer the more their argument really starts to break down.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2012 20:56:41 GMT -5
Wulfen looked at VerMillion in a manner that said he was un curtain about him saying what he was about to say. "Well........ Lets just say that I found out that someone who said she loved me didn't...... She was just using me." he said bitterly.
Then he noticed that she was trying to back him into a place where his argument wouldn't be valid. He looked at her firmly and then said. "Two things. One I think you should moderate the presidential debates." He paused and took a breath. "And two I'm not an expert on this topic so if you want someone who will actually be able to talk about this without pausing you should find someone else." He said. "And what I meant was that spot the boss gave you. Not your driveway." Then he let a smile cross his face. "Now I don't know much about what is a right and what is a wrong reason to kill. So I don't want to pretend like I do." Then he thought some. "But I will say that if one can find away around killing. They should take that route."
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Post by Heather Glass - VerMillion on May 13, 2012 22:42:10 GMT -5
"Aw!" VerMillion replies, her tone and expression showing that she's either being sympathetic or teasing him about it - it's hard to tell from one short syllable.
Though when he says that she should moderate the presidential debate she smirks and says, "Thanks." As far as she's concerned, that can only be a compliment, even though she doesn't think that she'd take the job even if it was offered. She hates talking politics unless she's mocking it, and suspects that she would be expected to follow some rules of some sort.
Though what she's really interested in hearing now is the answer to her question, and her eyes grow more intent upon him as he attempts to clarify his position. "Even the one your boss gives you is still yours," she notes first, "But there's always a 'way around killing' someone. Not killing someone is always an option, barring some weird situation. But if you follow that rule, that means you don't kill the person trying to kill you. But you said that's okay..." She smirks after that, as she suspects that he's starting to see just how hard making any sort of a solid case on this question would be.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2012 22:51:30 GMT -5
Wulfen gave a slight smirk at her response to what he said about the 'someone' "That's all your gonna get about that time." He said firmly. Abit more firmly then he meant to.
Wulfen was starting to get annoyed and he decided that if she was going to keep up this question about the morality of killing he was going to start working on getting out of his binds again. So he started to covertly start trying to undo the ropes around his wrist and get them off completely. "Well if someone is trying to kill you you can incapacitate them. Just because you shoot someone doesn't mean their dead." He said. "And like I said I'm not going to build a case on something I'm not an expert on."
He found himself thinking about a way to get back at her about this question. And if she kept it up he might just do something. Nothing violent...... Just back her into a corner like she's trying with him.
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Post by Heather Glass - VerMillion on May 14, 2012 0:04:50 GMT -5
When she hears the firmness in his tone, VerMillion only smirks at him. Oh, did she touch a nerve? She's pretty sure that she did, and she likes it! One advantage of the brave toxin is that since she's not busy worrying about her own behavior and responses or anything questionable that Wulfen is doing, she finds it a lot easier to pay attention to his body language. And she can see that he's starting to get angry again, and if anything she finds that amusing. Even after she pointed out his temper problem before, he's still struggling with that - well, this time she's not going to point it out.
Then again, even though she's watching him intently she doesn't react to his attempts to get out of his bonds. It wouldn't matter if she did or she didn't know he was doing it - even if she did know she wouldn't be worried about him getting loose. She can't worry about anything, after all. Instead her attention is on his words. "True... But we're not talking about when it's okay to incapacitate someone, we're talking about when it's okay to kill them," she easily points out, "And I know that you're not an expert. That's not why I'm asking you about this question. But you really should be able to answer it, you know." Her eyes remain amused as she continues to stare at him, now looking almost expectant. They're so close to getting to the point of this she can taste it!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 18:55:44 GMT -5
Wulfen was starting to get annoyed. "You do realize that you've been asking the same question over and over?" He asked. "You've just been changing the wording." He looked at her and shook his head. "I've already given you my answer."
He was at that point where he was going to ask a question. He thought quickly and then asked the first thing that came to mind...... Or rather the first thing Lupin put in his mind.
"You got a boyfriend? I'm sure you two share a bed, eh?" He didn't expect much i response. As a matter of fact he was mentally scolding Lupin right now. But he did hope that he would get her to stop asing the same question.
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Post by Heather Glass - VerMillion on May 14, 2012 22:44:31 GMT -5
VerMillion laughs a little. "Yes. Do you realize that you haven't answered it yet? Everything you've said just dodges the question and doesn't really count as an answer. You don't have a real answer, do you?" she says with a pleased, almost triumphant grin. If interviews were a competitive sport, he'd be losing pretty badly just about now.
Though that grin turns into surprise when he suddenly asks her a very personal question, though as quickly as the surprise came, it turns into another laugh. "Perfect example! Now you're just trying to change the subject. The answer is no, by the way. And you're a virgin, aren't you?" she says, and this time her laugh is clearly teasing. The question didn't fluster her at all, actually - she just thinks it's hilarious that he asked.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 22:56:02 GMT -5
"I haven't?" He asked as he started to think back to what he felt was his answer. "Ok ok give me a sec. I'll have to think." After a few seconds of silence Wulfen spoke again. "If your asking what is a right reason and a wrong reason to kill someone. I can only answer for myself" He said. "I feel that the only time it is ok to kill is if this someone is trying to kill you or someone you love." He paused after that. "But even then its barely ok."
Then when she asked if he was a virgin he paused and gave a quick and quiet cough. He was so caught off guard by that question that he stopped trying to get out of the ropes. "Uhhh.......... Well.................. Is.............. Is it that obvious?" He barely managed to ask.
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Post by Heather Glass - VerMillion on May 14, 2012 23:59:29 GMT -5
If only because VerMillion's smile doesn't waver as she continues to watch him a little too closely, Wulfen should get a hint that even this answer isn't going to fly with her either. "So you're saying that it's not okay for you to kill someone who is killing off people you don't know?" she asks, hardly having to hesitate before knowing that's the question that she wants to ask. He has a certain disadvantage in this situation: she talks, a lot. And she's good at it. It's her job, even. Just like he could probably defeat her easily in a fight, she's not struggling here with this.
And the amused smirk that comes to her face when he asks that very hesitant question is clearly mocking as she answers, "Yes, yes it is. And now all of Gotham knows." She laughs lightly at that. Though it's technically not quite true since this is being recorded so they won't quite know now, but that's definitely not something she'd edit out so it will be true soon enough. In fact, she's quite pleased with pretty much the entire interview thus far.
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